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So... What kind of board is this?
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| Owner | nunja |
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| Coowners | N/A |
| Board | Tira |
| Program | Shi Painter Pro |
| Size | 300x500 |
| Added | 15:47, 22 Feb 2009 |
| Modified | 09:56, 23 Feb 2009 |
| Time summary | 1h 25m 47s |
| Version | 2/2 |
| Status | Finished (15:51, 22 Feb 2009) |
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09:53, 23 Feb 2009 32m 5s So... What kind of board is this?...» |
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nunja
Ok. Thanks for your opinion. I wanted to change it , but I guess that is don FOR me... Why does this belong on tira and not on level 2. I placed that place because this wasn't made for practice purposes, and I didn't think it belongs with the highend level. Can you please explain to me the difference?nunja
Ok. Thank you for your thoughts on this matter. Though I still can't understand why this belongs in tira? I wanted to change this, but I can see that it has already been done FOR me, without any notice... I'm sorry for putting my art in the wrong place, I just thought I did it in the right place...
malpanka
ah i'm sorry i should have let you do this yourself.it's not level2 work, mainly because of the complete lack of background, several anatomical mistakes and a scribbly lineart.
level2 is an intermediate board, and works uploaded there need to be done carefully and have only minor imperfections. sometimes we allow sketchy-artsy stuff here, but only when the composition and colour choices are really good, and the sketchy look is intentional and well executed.
nunja
Well, I know I am not the best artist but this was intentional in a way. What I'd like to know is why this does belong to the Tira board: the practice board. Anyway, I thank you for replying to my reply.You seem to find a lot of things wrong with this picture, but why aren't you giving me any constructive criticism? I'd like to be a better artist, therefore I need help. So could you please point out the things you think I can inprove on? Thank you very much.
malpanka
hmmm, i'm sorry, my comment was kinda rushed, i sometimes forget that an artist usually needs more information. I apologize.First of all- i really appreciate your will to improve. really. not many artists in here do that, some would even rather argue with mods than try to correct their mistakes.
Tira is a "practice" board, which means it's good for training, because there are no requirements about the quality of works posted there. some artists prefer to keep their stuff on tira board because it's safe, not because they think their work is not good enough.
I can see that you edited your work, cleaned up the lineart and added some colour to the background. but it doesn't really change the impression that the work was rushed. if you're aiming at a sketchy-artsy look, you should work on stronger, dynamic brushstrokes and interesting composition. now the whole thing looks a bit blurry, and composition is a bit too boring to attract the viewer. compare it to other works on this board - usually they are a lot more detailed and dynamic.
try finding some tutorials and tips on composition and colour theory. (yes, again, because contrast and variety in hues are one of the things that make a portrait interesting and realistic. (realistic=/= like a photo, realistic = believable and creating an illusion of life).
also - practice drawing hands. bone structure is very important, especially if you're drawing slim hands. overall anatomy studies are recommended too. try adding more detail to the bodies and control the way shades and highlights are distributed - it creates the illusion of volume.
these are rather tips for future, but if you REALLY want to make this one picture better, we can work on it, i can make you some paintovers to show the anatomical and shading mistakes. but this will require a lot more of of work and patience.
nunja
I wrote a whole reply yesterday, but I closed th browser before I send it... Stupid!I never intended to argue with anyone, I just wanted things to get clear. This site needs to improve too, you know...
Anyway, Thank you for the criticism. In order to become an awesome artist (thats my goal for now...) I need help, anybody needs help. Some just don't want it.. I really appreciate it that you took the time to criticize this piece.
I would really love it if you'd make some paintovers for me. I could really use that to visualize the things you said...
(By the way, you wouldn't happen to be a moderator who I need to ask for a bigger canvas and paintchat, would you? If yes, I'd like to ask you for those tools. If no, nevermind)
Hatomi
Hmmm .... Thoughts, that it is obliged to be on Tira ;(